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Downtown
Redevelopments Starwood
Urban Investments re-thinking
urban revitalization by
Keith Alan Deutsch
As the president of Starwood Urban Investments, Robert S. Wennett
is responsible for the new companys ambitious national development plan to identify
unrecognized value in urban retail and mixed-use real estate, to acquire and consolidate
those properties within targeted neighborhoods and communities, and then transform these
acquisitions into exciting urban retail destinations.
Even with $1 billion to get things rolling from parent company Starwood Capital
Group L.L.C. of Greenwich, Connecticut, this is a challenging agenda.
Our
investment strategy at Starwood, like the entertainment retail development strategies E.S.P.
usually covers, are affected by a change in lifestyle decisions in the population, in the
retail market, Wennett answered without hesitation.
People have much less time than they used to have. People are more active and
health conscious. They want to do things,
participate in sports and leisure activities, make active use of their limited time. We believe that because of these shifts in
lifestyle there is a new focus on urban environments.
Baby boomers are aging. Theyve
lived and shopped in the suburban sprawl and theyre tired of it. They dont want to stay in their homes. They want to get out and on the streets and
experience the energy and the excitement of the city where the great local restaurants
are, where the interesting shops line the walk, and where the cultural infrastructure has
always existed theaters and museums and history and great local architecture.
People want to be close to downtown where all these experiences are available and have
always been available historically. Does that mean that Starwood Urban is
looking for public money from municipalities trying to attract major downtown
redevelopments? Not at all. We are well-funded and can pick our investments in
neighborhoods that already have a lifeline and energy in place and happening. We dont need outside money. We are not finance-driven. We dont need to make up a theme, to invent a
destination concept. We are not project-driven. We
are concerned about major investments in communities that already have a strong sense of
place. Were not about building more
white-elephant projects, artificial environments that we hope will attract visitors and
tourists. A lot of that is going on and it
may have its place. Time will tell. We are not the kind of developer you usually
cover in your magazine. Developers like to go
where the money is. Developers like to spend
money. They like to admire and show off what
theyve created. A lot of that is going
on today. Is that kind of
entertainment retail development bad? It
is not bad, Wennett answered. The industry is changing. The focus on new forms of entertainment is
possible because of all the new technology. It
is all very high-tech. But it could be faddish. It
might wear out. Concept destinations can become fatigued.
There is sure to be some fallout in the near future.
Not every new development will turn out to be another Disney World.
We think we have a special
vision with its own model for entertainment retail real estate investment that differs
from many of the developers you have covered in E.S.P. Magazine. We do not think of ourselves as developers and we
do not create projects. Our goal is to
create an urban renaissance within an existing urban fabric of established communities and
neighborhoods. Could you give us an example? In the Washington, D.C. area, where we are
headquartered, we have made a substantial investment in the citys future. We didnt wait for the municipality to call
us in, to offer us public money. We decided
we could help affect the destiny of the city, of the neighborhoods we targeted. So we moved on our vision. Does that mean Starwood is not
interested in public/private money arrangements with municipalities? Not at all.
We are doing those co-operative municipal deals.
We are open to any and all forms of finance structuring. But we dont have to wait on financing
because Starwood Capital, primarily through the Starwood Opportunity Fund V, gives us the
ability to move on our independent initiative. But without municipal partnership,
isnt Starwood taking on a larger risk? Five
of us are partners and we make all the major decisions together, based on our special
talents and long experience in the business, Wennett says. He feels that he and his associates are up to the
challenge. He says that Starwood Urbans
strength already lies waiting in the downtowns of the great American cities. Think of the great urban neighborhoods of
the 1920s. Think of Chicago, Harlem in its renaissance. Look at New Orleans, today. With all our new technology,
imagineering, and social planning, you cant create a New Orleans. It has too much cultural, architectural, and
ethnic history to imagine. There are limits
to what can be developed as themed entertainment and retail destinations. Our projects speak for themselves. Our vision is based on a number of premises:
people want to come back to the great downtowns. There
are neighborhoods and communities that are in place in the great cities that have
tremendous hidden wealth in history, architecture, culture, food and restaurants. Local traditions and resources and character are
already in the place, waiting to be renewed. We
believe we can see this silver under the tarnish and we are investing in the silver of
these urban retail living environments. Does that mean Starwood has rejected
themed entertainment projects? Cities
are calling us. A lot of people are tired of theme restaurants. They want great neighborhood restaurants. There is nothing faddish about our strategy. We dont reject themed entertainment retail
projects. We just dont embrace them. That is not what Starwood Urban is about. How is Starwood handling its mix of
retail tenants in the Washington area? We
scouted existing neighborhoods and decided to concentrate on the Woodley Park commercial
district, Dupont Circle and the upscale Chevy Chase/Friendship Heights shopping districts. With a tenant mix that includes Tiffanys,
Brooks Brothers, and local retailers, the growth potential of these acquisitions gives
Starwood the opportunity to energize an already prosperous area, if we use our creative
leasing and management strategies. Does Starwood hire outside help on
the retail leasing? We control all
aspects of our investments. Claude
Chandonnet, Starwood Urbans managing director of leasing and management and one of
our partners, handles the retailing and tenant mix. Does that mean no outside agencies
are used? No. We seek out local
companies to help in each market (in which) we make an investment. For example, in D.C., Madison Realty Group is
working with Chandonnet. In Norwalk,
Connecticut, we have Nancy Saunders of Saunders Real Estate helping out with the shops,
restaurants offices, and residential condominiums. Tell us more about this SoNo project. It is not a project. It is a great neighborhood. We acquired 95,293 sq.ft. spread through 31
commercial condominium units in 16 buildings and five entire buildings. It is an exciting location. Norwalks $30-million Maritime Aquarium is
undergoing a $9-million expansion. In the early 1980s, the area was considered a slum. Now our condominium buildings, built in the 19th
century, are on the National Register of Historic Places and the whole enclave has become
quite stylish. Nearby, a new museum for
children is under construction. We are
upgrading the buildings and seeking local, regional, and national tenants. Wennett says that SoNo is a perfect
example of an investment in an urban real estate market that is gathering momentum, based
on the resources within the community. SoNo
is a good model for our strategy. We bring a
vision to our acquisition that is synergistic with all
the various uses and social energy in the community. Everybody wins. The neighborhood
benefits. Our investors benefit. The final topic of our discussion
with Wennett was Starwoods announcement of an innovative University Streets Program
in which urban universities would be the anchors for revitalized downtowns. The core idea is that universities already draw
students, faculty and guests to urban destinations so why not use them as the center
for redevelopment? What generated the idea for the
University Streets Program? We had no
models for the concept. It grew out of our
thinking about our primary urban investment goals. All
those children of baby boomers are going to university areas. Street life is important to the college and
university experience. How to harness all
that implicit energy in the universities? Colleges
are in a very competitive business. Equal
to, or just following academic consideration, are the environs that give these
institutions a competitive edge to attract students.
We seem to have struck a chord because we have gotten a lot of press about the
program, and hundreds of universities have contacted us to participate. Is there anything special about a
university community that makes investing in retail entertainment redevelopment
attractive? Absolutely. Think about it.
It is a captive, 24-hour consumer base. The
students look for the things to do and to eat at all hours. Starwood Capital owns or controls the
largest chain of luxury hotels in the world. Will
Starwood Urban only be putting Starwood Capitals hotels in these communities? No. But
you are right. We do anticipate refurbishing or building new hotels on campus as part of
the University Streets strategy. Wennett declined to offer specific
ideas on the scale of anticipated development of retail, housing, hotels, or parking. But he did offer that Starwood is open to joint
venture arrangements. We are looking
for an eclectic mix of national, regional, and local tenants including retail stores,
restaurants, and lodging. Well consider
partners on a site-by-site basis, he told us. He
also added that in each university market Starwood would be seeking local leasing and
management companies to work with it. What about municipal or university
partnerships? We are not requiring any
outside financing, but we will certainly consider whatever arrangments offer the best
opportunity for growth in the area. What about TIFs? We are not specifically looking for them,
but if available, we will take advantage of them. How much original construction will
be undertaken? In all of our projects
were much more heavily weighted toward retrofitting existing buildings because they
are what attracted us to the area in the first place.
But we do anticipate hotel construction, where needed. What is the lead time anticipated
before actual investment begins in University Streets? We dont anticipating making
further announcements on the program for another 6 to 12 months. What will be the breakdown between
money spent in the university program and money spent in other urban investments? At the beginning, we expect 25 percent of
our focus to be on the University Streets program. So where is the other 75 percent of
the capital going to be invested? Isnt
there an awful lot of that billion-dollar seed money waiting to go? Yes. Investors
want to place capital. But we have to weigh the likelihood of success against the desire
to place the money. After we target a
community, we have to find willing sellers. There
are considerations in play that are not identical to the average public/private
arrangement where a municipality calls in a developer to partner a downtown
redevelopment. How much money does Starwood want to
invest at one time? There is no limit,
but we have a $5-million minimum. A lot of
initial targets are in the $10- to $50-million range.
A downtown neighborhood that offers an investment of $100 million is the best for
us. Can you reveal a time frame for using
your $1-billion seed fund? Where are you
looking to invest? A time range would
be speculative at this stage. We are looking
for unique neighborhoods with a strong sense of character.
We prefer buildings that have a rich historical resonance, like those we acquired
in SoNo. We are looking in Boston, Chicago,
Miami, San Francisco, Seattle, New York, and LA not downtown LA, but in the western
suburbs. Can the core value of Starwood
Urbans downtown revitalization strategy be summed up for our readers? Let me try.
We expect overall revenues and retail performance to increase dramatically as we
help renew whatever neighborhood we enter. That
satisfies our investors and our business goals. We
expect the community we become part of to benefit by our participation not only because of
the retailing and entertainment opportunities we help provide any good development will
do that. But we expect our participation to
revitalize the community with the spirit and energy of its past. Starwood Urban picks communities and neighborhoods
to develop, not projects. For information contact Robert
Wennett, president, Starwood Urban Investments, 1320 19th Street, NW, Suite 800,
Washington, DC 20036; 202-478-4610; e-mail: rwennett@starwoodurban.com.
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